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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:59 pm 
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Just wanted to introduce myself, been into Cleveland's for a while and still learning. Currently in the process of building a 408 cleveland with a lot of help from Brent. Look forward to learning from all the knowledgeable members on here. Tim


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:47 am 
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Tim,
Welcome aboard. So what goodies will you be building your 408 with? Expectations/goals? Street? Strip? Drag? A little all? Seeing your user name, Im guessing its going in a 70 Mach1?

-Matt


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Right 70 mach 1, street and strip. Previous 357 c ran a best of 11.74 at 114 mph. Bought 408 stroker parts, solid flat tappet cam and chi 4v heads from Brent. Shooting for low 11s to high 10s, will see what happens. 408 will be 10.0 comp, scat crank, k1 rods. Should be a lot more hp and torque than I currently have. Planning on using my strip dominator, do also have a parker funnelweb that I will install just to see what works better.


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Matt, what car do you have...


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Tim,
Sounds like a stout build. If you are putting the CHI 4v cast iron heads then 10.0 compression is good. If they are the aluminium heads then myself I would be at 11:1 compression. My 359C is 11:1 and runs on 93 just fine.

I have a 70 Cougar. 359C stock crank/Eagle H-beam rods/SRP flat tops/Trick Flow 225cc heads/Track Heat intake/750 Mighty Demon carb. Bullet Custom solid flat cam Brent spec for me/Patriot 1 3/4 headers. Dynoed 520hp/453tq on engine dyno.

Best 1/8 time are back to back 7.2@95 Best quarter mile so far is a 11.5@117 and that was with a 7.37 1/8 mile. Currently i have a TCI 3000 stall which is completely wrong for my power band. Im waiting for all this junk weather to go far far away. I guess Texas is Seattle now. Seems to rain here for days at a time. I need to get to track so I can re tune my suspension. I run Cal-Tracs bars and i just put adjustable rear shocks and Calvert fronts and 2 degree wedge plates for pinion angle. I need to tune the suspension, make sure it goes strait again and then I will put my new 5000 stall. With all this im hoping to get 10.8-10.9 in Quarter.
-Matt


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Matt, sounds like a cool car. I always liked 70 cougars. What does your car weigh with driver and fuel. My mach is 3420 with me and fuel, full interior. I'm in Michigan so have to wait for winter to get over before I can get the car back out. My chi heads are aluminum and the actual comp will be 10.4-10.5. Brent spec'd all the parts and I cant wait to try it out, should be a lot faster than previous combo. Im running 4.56 gears and planning on shifting at 7000...


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Tim,
I weighed it a few years ago at The Texas MotorPlex. Its a NHRA sanctioned pro track so I figure its accurate. Scale said 3110lbs with me in it (i was 230lbs at that time) and 5 gallons fuel. Bare bones interior. I cut out the floors and put new full length floors in. Also cut out the trunk when replacing the rear frame rails and built a new trunk floor with square tube and new sheet metal. I also took the front flip down head light assembly out. Man that alone had to be at least 60lbs. All factory skins, hood and bumpers. Years before this, I weighed it at the same track but with the 362C that has the Aussie 2v iron heads, carpet, back seat and factory gas tank. It weighed 3345 with me and about 8 gallons fuel.

Hell I figured after cutting out all the rust and rot and putting new thicker metal it would be heavier than it is right now. Then again, i did remove at least 30lbs of dirt/barnacles from it when replacing all the sheet metal. I figure it runs as good as it does with this converter because of the weight savings. Should, hopefully will be a little rocket ship with my new stall.

Oh and I have 4.11 gears. rear tires are Hoosier Quick Time Pro 27x11.5x15. Currently shift at 6600. It made the 521hp at 6300rpm and I have no idea what it does after that.
-Matt


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